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misdemeanor, hearsay, felony, murder, hearsay rule, indictment, allocution,
declarant, third parties, trustworthiness, arrest, plea of guilty, admit,
hearsay exception, penal interest, qualification, excluding, judgment of
conviction, law enforcement, reasonable man, third person, unavailable,
motivation, admitting, contempt, motive, third party, gambling, theft
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COUNSEL: [**1]
Andrew J. Maloney, United States Attorney, (Diane F. Giacalone, John
Gleeson, Assistant United States Attorneys, of counsel), Brooklyn, New York
for U.S.
Slotnick. & Cutler, (Bruce Cutler, Esq., of counsel), New York, New York,
for Defendant John Gotti.
Slotnick & Cutler, (Barry I. Slotnick, Esq., of counsel), New York, New
York, for Defendant John Carneglia.
Hoffman, Pollok & Gasthalter, (Jeffrey C. Hoffman, Esq., of counsel), New
York, New York, for Defendant Eugene Gotti.
Richard A. Rehbock, Esq., New York, New York, for Defendant Wilfred Johnson.
David DePetris, Esq., New York, New York, for Defendant Anthony Rampino.
Michael L. Santangelo, Esq., New York, New York, Susan Kellman, Esq., New
York, New York, for Defendant Leonard DiMaria.
George Santangelo, Esq., New York, New York, for Defendant Nicholas Corozzo.
JUDGES: Nickerson, D.J.
OPINIONBY: NICKERSON
OPINION: [*286]
MEMORANDUM AND OPINION
NICKERSON, D.J.,
Defendants apply to preclude the admission of certain evidence that the
government proposes to offer.
The indictment charges so-called RICO violations in two counts. The first
alleges, in substance, that defendants as the leadership of a part of the
"Gambino Crime
[**2] Family" constituted an "enterprise" within the
meaning of
18 U.S.C. § 1961(4) and conspired, in violation of
18 U.S.C. § 1962(d), to associate together in the enterprise and to
conduct its affairs through "a pattern of racketeering activity" consisting
of theft, the conduct of illegal gambling businesses, extortion, robbery,
trafficking in contraband cigarettes, and acts and threats of murder and
robbery.
The second count charges that each defendant violated
18 U.S.C. § 1962(c) by participating in the conduct of the affairs of
the enterprise through a "pattern of racketeering activity." The count
alleges fifteen racketeering acts, in at least two of which each defendant
is said to have participated.
The alleged racketeering acts committed by the seven defendants remaining in
the case may be summarized as follows. Two of the defendants are accused of
theft of goods from interstate commerce, one of illegal possession of goods
stolen from interstate commerce, three of murder or conspiracy to murder,
six of the conduct of illegal gambling businesses, three of conspiracies to
rob currency from armored cars, five of conspiracies to commit extortion,
one of theft under state law, and
[**3] one of illegal possession of contraband and
stolen cigarettes.
1. The government proposes to offer pursuant to
Rule 804(b)(5) of the Federal Rules of Evidence statements by Albert
Gelb, one of the murder victims, to ten prospective witnesses. Gelb, a court
officer, allegedly caused the arrest of Charles Carneglia for possession of
a weapon. Charles Carneglia, a named defendant, is a fugitive and the
brother of defendant John Carneglia. Charles was charged in the state court
with possession of a weapon and resisting arrest. On March 11, 1976, shortly
before the state trial, Gelb was murdered. Before he was killed Gelb
allegedly stated to several of his acquaintances that Charles and friends
and associates of Charles had threatened him with injury or death if he
testified against Charles.
The indictment charges defendant John, Charles' brother, with the murder of
Gelb as a part of the conduct of the affairs of the enterprise.
Subsection (b)(5) of Rule 804 provides an exception to the exclusion of
hearsay evidence when the declarant is unavailable. The subsection reads, in
pertinent part, as follows:
(5) Other exceptions. A statement not specifically covered by any of
the [**4]
foregoing exceptions but having equivalent circumstantial guarantees of
trustworthiness [*287] [is
not excluded by the hearsay rule], if the court determines that (A) the
statement is offered as evidence of a material fact; (B) the statement
is more probative on the point for which it is offered than any other
evidence which the proponent can procure through reasonable efforts; and
(C) the general purposes of these rules and the interests of justice
will best be served by admission of the statement into evidence.
To qualify for admission under this so-called "catch-all" rule Gelb's
statements as to the threats must be, among other things, evidence of "a
material fact," a term not defined in the Federal Rules of Evidence. If a
"material" fact is simply a "relevant" fact, the qualification adds nothing
to the sentence in Rule 402 excluding irrelevant evidence.
Rule 401 of the Federal Rules of Evidence recites that "'relevant
evidence' means evidence having any tendency to make the existence of any
fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable
or less probable than it would be without the evidence." The notes of the
Advisory Committee on the proposed
[**5] Rules show that it used this language because
"it has the advantage of avoiding the loosely used and ambiguous word
'material.'"
But Congress and not the Advisory Committee drafted Rule 804(b)(5) [and Rule
803(24), which has identical pertinent wording], and nothing in the
legislative history throws light on the question of whether the drafters
sought to make a distinction between "material" and "relevant." Chief Judge
Weinstein has suggested that use of the word "material" probably requires
that the evidence concern a matter that is not "trivial or collateral."
United States v. Iaconetti, 406 F. Supp. 554, 559 (E.D.N.Y.),
aff'd,
540 F.2d 574 (2d Cir. 1976), cert. denied,
429 U.S. 1041, 50 L. Ed. 2d 752, 97 S. Ct. 739 (1977). At least the
evidence must be relevant.
The government urges that Charles' threats are relevant to his motive to
cause his brother John to commit the murder. The threats are certainly
evidence that Charles knew that Gelb was the cause of the arrest and
realized that Gelb would probably testify against him. To that extent the
threats are relevant to show that Charles had an incentive, shared, the
government claims, with John, to cause Gelb's disappearance.
[**6]
But to admit the evidence on this basis would be inconsistent with the
second qualification of Rule 804(b)(5). For the threats are not "more
probative" than other evidence the government has to show Charles'
appreciation that Gelb's testimony would be damaging to him. The government
proposes to offer the testimony of Gelb at a hearing in which he recounted
the events leading up to the arrest and during which Charles' counsel
thoroughly cross-examined Gelb. Gelb's accusations under oath that Charles
possessed a weapon and resisted arrest are as directly probative of Charles'
motive to arrange the murder as are his threats.
The government also contends that the threats to Gelb are relevant to show
the murder was committed as a part of the conduct of the affairs of the
"enterprise." The argument is that warnings not to testify against someone
in fact a member of the Gambino Family tend to prove that the killing was
not a random homicide unrelated to the protection of the enterprise.
A threat by Charles himself would not itself justify an inference that it
was made in furtherance of the aims of the enterprise or of the Gambino
Family. It is just as likely he made the threat on his own
[**7] behalf.
The government does not suggest that he announced his threats as part of the
activities or policy of the enterprise or of the Gambino Family.
Moreover, John allegedly committed the murder. Indeed, the government says
there will be testimony that John said he had committed the murder to
prevent his brother from going to jail. Perhaps the government has other
evidence to warrant a jury in finding that John killed not solely out of a
fraternal feeling but to serve the purposes of the enterprise. But evidence
[*288] of
Charles' threats is not proof that such was John's motive.
The government points out that Gelb stated that some of the threats were
made by Charles' friends or associates. Evidence that an "associate" of the
"enterprise" made a threat would tend to show that members of the enterprise
believed that its interests were threatened by Gelb's prospective testimony
and therefore that the murder was committed on behalf of the enterprise.
However, the government does not claim that Gelb's statements identified any
one of the alleged "associates" of Charles as being associated with the
enterprise or with the Gambino Crime Family. If Gelb had specified the
identity
[**8] of any such "associate" of Charles, and the
government could show that that person was associated with the enterprise,
the court would have to face another question.
It would hardly be warranted to conclude from the fact that someone said he
was a "friend" or "associate" of Charles that he was therefore associated
with the enterprise. But even if that implication could be made, the
testimony would be of hearsay within hearsay and would be inadmissible
unless both Gelb's statement and that made to him conformed to an exception
to the hearsay rule.
Fed. R. Evid. 805. The government suggests that both parts of the
combined double hearsay qualify for admission under Rule 804(b)(5).
Cf.
Zenith Radio Corp. v. Matsushita Elec. Ind. Co., 505 F. Supp. 1190,
1266 (E.D. Pa. 1980), rev'd in part,
723 F.2d 238 (3d Cir. 1983), rev'd in part,
475 U.S. 574, 106 S. Ct. 1348, 89 L. Ed. 2d 538 (1986).
The theory on which some hearsay statements are accepted in evidence is that
they have been made under circumstances supposed to furnish appropriate
guarantees of trustworthiness, guarantees sufficient to dispense with
cross-examination of the declarant. When the court admits hearsay within
[**9] hearsay a
defendant cannot test by cross-examination the statements of either
declarant, the possibility of mistake or misunderstanding or even falsehood
increases, and the probative value of the evidence declines. This is
particularly so where the hearsay within hearsay concerns not an isolated
and concrete fact but requires a further inference as to a relationship.
There are instances where both declarations meet the guarantees of
trustworthiness required under Rule 804(b)(5).
See
United States v. Medico, 557 F.2d 309, 314-16 (2d Cir.),
cert.
denied,
434 U.S. 986, 54 L. Ed. 2d 480, 98 S. Ct. 614 (1977). But here the
inference that because someone is a "friend" or "associate" of Charles he is
probably a part of the "enterprise" is sufficiently weak so that this court
would exclude the evidence under Rule 403. Its probative value is
substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice.
2. The hearing testimony of Gelb dated February 10, 1975, and referred to
above, will be admitted not as proof of his assertions but to show that he
made them. For reasons already stated Gelb's testimony is relevant to the
issue of motive to kill him and is not hearsay as to that issue.
[**10]
Similarly the government may offer the indictment of Charles not to prove
the facts it states but to show he was under indictment as part of the proof
of the motive for the murder.
3. Under Rule 803(22), a judgment of a felony conviction of a defendant is
admissible against that defendant, but not against others, "to prove any
fact essential to sustain the judgment." A felony conviction is thus
admissible against a defendant even though it is for a crime not
constituting a predicate act alleged in the indictment, provided that a fact
essential to sustain the judgment of conviction is relevant to prove the
predicate act or some other act relevant to the guilt of that defendant.
4. To the extent that the indictment or other record of a prior case that
culminated in a judgment of conviction is required to show what facts were
"essential to sustain" that judgment, the court, in exercising its
responsibility under Rule 104(a), may consider preliminarily such
indictments
[*289] or other records and admit the essential
facts in evidence before the jury.
5. Rule 803(22), while it makes a judgment adjudging a person guilty of a
felony an exception to the hearsay rule, contains no similar
[**11]
exception for a conviction of a misdemeanor. The government seeks to
introduce under the "catch-all" provisions of Rule 803(24) or Rule 804(b)(5)
misdemeanor convictions of defendants to prove some of the elements of
predicate acts (which under
18 U.S.C. § 1961(1) must be felonies), with other facts required to
establish the predicate acts supplied by other proof.
The court sees no reason in principle why such misdemeanor convictions
should not be admitted provided they meet the conditions of Rules 803(24)
and 804(b)(5). The omission from Rule 803(22) of a hearsay exception for a
misdemeanor conviction does not imply a prohibition against admission of
such a conviction under some other exception to the hearsay rule. In fact
Rules 803(24) and 804(b)(5) apply by their terms only to statements "not
specifically covered" by other exceptions.
The Advisory Committee explained in its notes that Rule 803(22) made only
convictions of a felony an exception to the hearsay rule "because motivation
to defend at this [misdemeanor] level is often minimal or nonexistent."
Where the motivation to defend against a misdemeanor charge is comparable to
the motivation to defend against a felony charge,
[**12] the
misdemeanor conviction has "equivalent circumstantial guarantees of
trustworthiness." If the government can so satisfy the court, the
misdemeanor convictions of defendants will be admitted.
6. The government proposes to offer guilty pleas and allocutions by
defendants as admissions under Rule 801(d) (2)(A) and to offer the pleas and
allocutions of both defendants and third parties as statements against
interest under Rule 804(b)(3).
Rule 801(d)(2)(A) includes among the statements defined as "not hearsay," a
statement "offered against a party" which is "his own statement." Rule
804(b)(3) includes among the statements "not excluded by the hearsay rule if
the declarant is unavailable as a witness," a statement which "so far tended
to subject him to civil or criminal liability" that "a reasonable man in his
position would not have made the statement unless he believed it to be
true."
When offered against a defendant a plea by him to a felony and his
allocution on that plea are admissions under Rule 801(d)(2)(A). If a
defendant or third party is "unavailable" within the meaning of Rule 804,
such pleas and allocutions, so far as they make statements against the
declarant's penal interest,
[**13] are admissible under Rule 804(b) (3), if
they meet the further qualification of the Rule.
See
United States v. Winley, 638 F.2d 560, 561-62 (2d Cir. 1981),
cert. denied,
455 U.S. 959, 71 L. Ed. 2d 678, 102 S. Ct. 1472 (1982);
United States v. Persico, 621 F. Supp. 842, 871 (S.D.N.Y. 1985).
A "reasonable man" would not generally make an admission that he was guilty
of a felony "unless he believed" the admission to be true. Therefore, unless
it appears that a reasonable man would have pleaded to a felony though he
did not believe himself guilty, the court will accept the evidence under
Rule 804(b)(3).
A more difficult question is whether an allocution and plea by a defendant
or a third party to a misdemeanor is admissible under these Rules.
Weinstein's Evidence, para. 803(22)[01], at 803-354-803-355 (1985),
suggests that in order "to effectuate the policy of Rule 803(22) barring
evidence of convictions" of offenses less than felonies, evidence of guilty
pleas in non-felony cases should not be admitted under either Rule 801(d)(2)
or Rule 804(b)(3).
It may well be that accused persons at times enter pleas to minor offenses
because they have little motivation to defend.
[**14] There
are no doubt instances in which the pleader has a stake in pleading falsely
to facts establishing such an offense in order to avoid prosecution on an
unrelated felony.
[*290] In short, an accused may make admissions of
fact that are of dubious trustworthiness.
But in this court's opinion that possibility does not justify a blanket
exclusion of pleas and allocutions to misdemeanors. As already noted, Rule
803(22) does not "bar" evidence of a misdemeanor conviction but merely makes
conviction of a felony an exception to the hearsay rule. Rule 803(22) is
silent as to whether a misdemeanor should be admissible under some other
rule. As discussed above, misdemeanor convictions may have guarantees of
trustworthiness comparable to those of felony convictions.
By the same token, pleas and allocutions to misdemeanors by defendants may
be made under circumstances indicating that they are quite as reliable as
many admissions routinely admitted under Rule 801(d)(2)(A). In fact that
subsection of the Rule does not even require that the declarant manifest his
belief in the truth of the admission. Under Rule 403 the court can exclude a
plea to a misdemeanor made under conditions that
[**15] suggest
its untrustworthiness. But unless those conditions appear, the court will
admit such a plea and the accompanying allocution as an admission of a
party.
Similarly, this court concludes that there should be no wholesale exclusion
of defendants' or third parties' misdemeanor pleas and allocutions when
offered as statements against interest. Before the adoption of the Federal
Rules of Evidence two courts went so far as to admit pleas of guilty to
traffic violations as statements against interest.
Rain v. Pavkov, 357 F.2d 506, 509 (3d Cir. 1966);
M.F.A. Mut. Ins. Co. v. Dixon, 243 F. Supp. 806, 812 (W.D. Ark.
1965).
Rule 804(b)(3) does not restrict the exception to the hearsay rule for
statements against penal interest to those statements admitting felonies.
The Rule provides an exception for any statement admitting criminal
liability provided it meets the Rule's qualification that the statement was
made under such circumstances that a "reasonable man" in the declarant's
position would not have admitted his guilt unless "he believed" he was
guilty.
The court will therefore admit under Rule 804(b)(3) relevant misdemeanor
pleas and allocutions of "unavailable" defendants
[**16] and
third parties to the extent they state matters against the declarants' penal
interest, provided the circumstances show that reasonable men in the
position of the declarants would not have admitted the crimes unless they
believed they had committed them.
7. The government has been unable to obtain the minutes of a 1969 statement
against interest by a third person in the form of a plea of guilty in this
court to a felony. The government thus seeks to offer the judgment of
conviction signed by the judge reciting the fact that the third party
pleaded guilty as evidence of the fact of the plea.
Rule 803(8) provides an exception to the hearsay rule for records of "public
offices" setting forth, among other things, "matters observed pursuant to
duty imposed by law as to which matters there was a duty to report,
excluding, however, in criminal cases matters observed by police officers
and other law enforcement personnel." This court is a "public office." In
accordance with the duty imposed on him by law, the judge who took the plea
observed the person plead guilty. The judge, who is not a "law enforcement"
officer, had a duty to report the fact of the plea when he signed the
judgment.
[**17] Therefore the fact of the plea of guilty to
the charges is admissible under Rule 803(8). The statement of facts made in
the plea that the declarant committed the acts charged is admissible under
Rule 804(b)(3) as a statement against penal interest. Presumably the fact of
the plea of guilty may also be confirmed by the docket sheet, another public
record.
The hearsay within hearsay is admissible under Rule 805 since each part of
the combined statements conforms to an
[*291] exception to the hearsay rule, and the
trustworthiness of both is assured.
Nothing in Rule 803(22) by its terms prohibits the use of the judgment to
prove the fact of the plea where other hearsay exceptions apply. That Rule
provides an exception to the hearsay rule for a felony conviction entered
"after a trial or upon a plea of guilty" but does "not include" judgments of
conviction against persons other than the accused "when offered by the
Government in a criminal prosecution." The fact that Rule 803(22) does not
include within the hearsay exception such a judgment against a third person
should not give rise to an implication that the drafters of the Rule
intended to exclude from evidence statements in judgments
[**18]
admissible under other exceptions.
It is true that the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in interpreting
Rule 803(8) gave a prohibitory effect to language "excluding" matters from
the public records hearsay exception.
United States v. Oates, 560 F.2d 45 (2d Cir. 1977). There the
Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit read the language of Rule 803(8),
"excluding" from the Rule's hearsay exception matters observed by "law
enforcement personnel" to make "law enforcement reports absolutely
inadmissible against defendants in criminal cases."
Id. at 72. The court said that such reports "cannot satisfy the
standards of any hearsay exception" if offered against an accused.
Id. at 84.
No doubt there are serious questions as to the propriety of admitting
evaluative reports of police officers of their alleged observation of the
commission of crimes. But the decision in
Oates to draw implications
from Rule 803(8) is hardly persuasive that the court should give an
analogous interpretation to the language in Rule 803(22) carving out an
exception to the hearsay rule for judgments against third parties. Moreover,
the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has substantially
[**19]
restricted the
Oates case, describing as "obiter" its language saying
that law enforcement reports "cannot satisfy the standards of any hearsay
exception" if they are offered against the accused.
United States v. Yakobov, 712 F.2d 20, 25 (2d Cir. 1983).
Here there is nothing "evaluative" about the judge's recording of a plea of
guilty.
Cf.
United States v. Yakobov, supra, 712 F.2d at 26. That recording
was a routine, nonadversarial matter, as to which there are no circumstances
to suggest lack of trustworthiness.
See, e.g.,
United States v. Orozco, 590 F.2d 789, 793-94 (9th Cir.),
cert. denied,
442 U.S. 920, 61 L. Ed. 2d 288, 99 S. Ct. 2845 (1979)(admitting computer
data as to license plate information furnished by customs inspectors);
Weinstein's Evidence, supra, at 803-258-803-266, and cases cited.
In the light of the trustworthiness of the judgment showing the plea of
guilty, admission of the record does not violate the confrontation clause of
the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution.
See
United States v. Inadi, 475 U.S. 387, 106 S. Ct. 1121, 89 L. Ed. 2d
390 (1986). The court will therefore admit the 1969 judgment to show
that the third person entered
[**20] a plea of guilty.
8. The government seeks to offer a number of convictions of third parties
not as proof of the commission of the acts charged but for a "nonhearsay"
purpose, namely, to show those persons' association with defendants and
thereby to prove the "enterprise." The argument is that "the fact that the
defendants and certain third parties have been arrested and prosecuted
together during the period covered by the indictment plainly tends to prove
their association with one another." The government claims that the jury,
without considering the convictions as evidence of commission of the
underlying offenses, could infer from the fact of joint prosecution of third
parties with defendants that all were associated together.
If the joint convictions of defendants and third persons be not proper proof
of the commission of joint criminal acts, the only basis for concluding that
those persons were associated with the defendants is
[*292] that
the prosecutor so decided. A prosecutor's view of a relationship is hardly
proof that it exists.
Cf.
United States v. Vandetti, 623 F.2d 1144, 1147 (6th Cir. 1980).
The convictions of third parties are not admissible as "nonhearsay"
[**21] to
prove an association with defendants.
9. The government wishes to offer the 1970 convictions for misdemeanor
criminal contempt of Aniello Dellacroce, now deceased but indicted as
"underboss" of the Gambino Crime Family and supervisor of the "enterprise."
The offer is said to be not of hearsay but of proof of "the lengths to which
Dellacroce would go to conceal the existence of the enterprise." The
government will offer the convictions not to show the contemptuous
underlying conduct, which it will prove through other evidence. Rather the
government's purpose, it says, is to show that Dellacroce "was willing to
suffer indictment, conviction and a prison term rather than divulge
information about the enterprise."
The government may present evidence that members of the enterprise took
steps to conceal its existence. One of Dellacroce's two contempt convictions
was on a plea of guilty, and the minutes of Dellacroce's plea may be
admissible as statements against interest.
Fed. R. Evid. 804(b) (3).
The government may offer relevant evidence to show that Dellacroce
anticipated that his contempt would lead to indictment, conviction, and
punishment. But the judgment itself, coming after
[**22] the
refusal to divulge facts, is not relevant to show what Dellacroce foresaw
when he committed the contempt and is not admissible for that purpose.
10. Much the same may be said of the felony convictions of associates of
defendants for criminal contempt. The government seeks to offer these under
Rule 803(24), claiming they are evidence of the "organized stonewalling" of
a grand jury investigation concerning the activities of the Ravenite Social
Club, which defendants and other members of the Gambino Crime Family
allegedly frequented.
Proof of the acts of contempt by these associates may be relevant to the
government's proof that defendants organized the refusal to give
information, as may proof of what the defendants and the third persons
anticipated by way of prosecution and punishment. But a subsequent
conviction and penalty imposed on a person is not proof of what was to be
anticipated. Of course, the conviction and sentence of one of the associates
might be proof of what a defendant or another associate later expected,
provided that there is proof of their knowledge of the earlier conviction.
11. The government proposes to offer a series of misdemeanor gambling
convictions
[**23] between April 1981 and February 1982 of
third parties employed by the enterprise and of defendant Anthony Rampino.
The government asserts that other evidence will show that defendants
responded immediately to the arrest of these individuals and arranged for
lawyers, bail money, and payment of the fines imposed. According to the
government, the convictions will show, with other evidence, how defendants
reacted to the arrests of their associates so as to minimize the risk of an
associate's cooperation with law enforcement and to facilitate the
resumption of the enterprise's gambling activities.
Evidence of the response of the defendants to arrests of specific associates
is relevant to prove the enterprise and its operation and is admissible. It
follows that the government may offer proof of the arrests of the specific
persons for whom defendants made a response. By the same token, proof of
payment by defendants of specific amounts of the fines imposed on specific
associates is admissible.
However, the misdemeanor convictions of third parties are not admissible
under Rule 803(24) to prove that they were guilty of the gambling offenses
with which they were charged. Proof of an element
[**24] of a
crime by evidence of a judgment of conviction after trial of a third person
apparently
[*293] still would be considered by the Supreme
Court a violation of the Confrontation Clause.
See
Pointer v. State of Texas, 380 U.S. 400, 13 L. Ed. 2d 923, 85 S. Ct.
1065 (1965); cf.
Lee v. Illinois, 476 U.S. 530, 106 S. Ct. 2056, 90 L. Ed. 2d 514
(1986).
12. The indictment in Florida of Aniello Dellacroce with Anthony Plate as
co-defendant is admissible as corroboration of other evidence that defendant
Johnson's motive to kill Plate was to give Dellacroce a better chance for
acquittal.
The government wishes to offer the acquittal of Dellacroce to show that
Johnson by committing the murder successfully prevented Dellacroce's
conviction. But no one can now divine the true reason why the jury acquitted
Dellacroce. The acquittal will be excluded.
13. As the case unfolds at trial the court will, of course, rule on any
defense applications to exclude under Rule 403 evidence otherwise
admissible. The court directs the government to make its offers under Rules
803(24) and 804(b)(5) after the other evidence has been introduced.
So ordered.